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 **Attendance**: yrrsinn, lynxis, partikel, alyssa, erin, embr … [irl people (please fill out)], zotan, jana, yaya \\ **Attendance**: yrrsinn, lynxis, partikel, alyssa, erin, embr … [irl people (please fill out)], zotan, jana, yaya \\
  
-===== TOP 1 - Plenum - do we want to exclude person from the Plenum? How to prevent such sitations? (zotan, lynxis) =====+===== TOP 1 - Plenum - do we want to exclude person from the Plenum? How to prevent such sitations? =====
  
   * The previous plenum had an exclusion of a person from the plenum that went against plenum guidelines, how can we resolve this in the future?   * The previous plenum had an exclusion of a person from the plenum that went against plenum guidelines, how can we resolve this in the future?
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   * lynxis will try to summarize the guidelines from the topic   * lynxis will try to summarize the guidelines from the topic
  
-===== TOP 2 - Awareness / mediator / Vertrauensperson =====+===== TOP 2 - Councillor / Mediator / Vertrauensperson =====
  
-help needed to summarize+  * If we don't want to people to go with their problem to the Vorstand. We need to find a better way. 
 +  * Have a list of volunteers. If you have a problems, ask one of the volunteer. So it's clear to go to whom. 
 +  * The list of volunteers would lower the entry point to find help and solve social issues. 
 +  * If you have a problem talk to people who you trust. 
 +  * Or you don't know who to go? Go to one of the volunteers.
  
-===== TOP 3 - How to kick somone out of the AfRA (Hausrecht) (lynxis) =====+  * It wouldn't be particular job that only these people have. It is task for the whole community. 
 +  * It is important to have multiple people who take care of social issues. A person can only do it until a certain degree and not something more.
  
-help needed to summarize+  * It would be good to have training. Managing dispute in community. Having this should put people into the position to allow it better. 
 +  * Everyone who want to do this can go. As a community have the understanding how to handle it. 
 +  * Have a workshop and talks to learn and improve how to deal with it.  
 +  * This is an important topic. The e.V. may pay for the workshop. 
 +  * There are mediator training for small community groups.
  
-===== TOP 4 - How to exclude persons from the AfRA community permanent (aka ban)? (lynxis) =====+  * Have guidelines as a hangout in the room. 
 +  * On the hangout could also be a list of persons one can contact. 
 +  * Everyone is allowed to add oneselve to the list of people to talk to. 
 + 
 +  * We don't like the word awareness. We should name it different. Councillors might be a better match. 
 + 
 +  * !action! we should ask around who knows people or organisation who can offer such workshops (mediator, dispute in small communities). 
 +  * !action! create some guidelines what to do in case of dispute and also allow people to add yourself to ask if you don't know someone. 
 +  * NEXT PLENUM: put this topic on it and maybe there is already a proposal. 
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 +===== TOP 3 - How to kick somone out of the AfRA (Hausrecht) ===== 
 + 
 +  * In the case of you are one of the person with a key and the german law Hausrecht and you have to kick (not ban) someone out of the AfRA for whatever reason. How to communicate it? 
 +  * ML mitglieder@afra-berlin.de is a closed list, but doesn't fit. Not every member want to know and not everybody from the community is on it 
 +  * We don't want another mailing list. 
 +  * If we blame someone online we may or may not get into legal troubles.  
 +  * Please be careful about public informations on the afra@ml!  
 +  * And als the wiki with personal sensitive information. Don’t put names or nicks next to accusations online. 
 +  * Anything on the public mailing list **will never go away** 
 + 
 +Summarize which everybody agree: If you kick someone out of the AfRA: 
 +  * write a mail “I kicked someone out” (please no names) 
 +  * add a topic to the next plenum: “I kicked someone out” (please no names) 
 + 
 +===== TOP 4 - How to exclude persons from the AfRA community permanent (aka ban)? =====
  
 help needed to summarize help needed to summarize
  
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